Comments on: More on EPA’s Climate Science Problem: The Peabody Petition http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/ A free-market energy blog Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:41:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: will the underwear bomber end a presidency? - Page 79 - Koi Forum - Koi-Bito Magazine straight from Japan http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-6785 will the underwear bomber end a presidency? - Page 79 - Koi Forum - Koi-Bito Magazine straight from Japan Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:24:57 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-6785 [...] sea ice is, unfortunately, not an isolated incident in the IPCC reports, but is simply one of many examples in which portions of the peer-reviewed scientific literature were cast aside, or ignored, so that a [...] [...] sea ice is, unfortunately, not an isolated incident in the IPCC reports, but is simply one of many examples in which portions of the peer-reviewed scientific literature were cast aside, or ignored, so that a [...]

]]> By: PeterB in Indianapolis http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-6142 PeterB in Indianapolis Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:46:05 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-6142 Then you have not been looking very hard or very critically Aaron. "Science" in which the conclusion is assumed and then the data are ginned up and the analyses are rigged in order to support the assumed conclusion is not science. Read more on the philosophy of science and the scientific method, and then go back over some of these "studies" and critically evaluate for yourself whether they were indeed science or not. You might be shocked. Then you have not been looking very hard or very critically Aaron.

“Science” in which the conclusion is assumed and then the data are ginned up and the analyses are rigged in order to support the assumed conclusion is not science.

Read more on the philosophy of science and the scientific method, and then go back over some of these “studies” and critically evaluate for yourself whether they were indeed science or not. You might be shocked.

]]> By: Aaron Huertas http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-5793 Aaron Huertas Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:27:37 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-5793 Jack, I'm not sure what you're saying. While they reference one another and reference similar papers, they're still separate assessments. They were also produced at different times. In any case, where is the case that this undermines the public health conclusions? All I've seen are weak hand-waving accusations against the science and nothing that directly undercuts the science in the endangerment finding. -Aaron Jack, I’m not sure what you’re saying. While they reference one another and reference similar papers, they’re still separate assessments. They were also produced at different times.

In any case, where is the case that this undermines the public health conclusions? All I’ve seen are weak hand-waving accusations against the science and nothing that directly undercuts the science in the endangerment finding.

-Aaron

]]> By: Monday Meltdown: March 1st 2010 « The Daily Bayonet http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-5539 Monday Meltdown: March 1st 2010 « The Daily Bayonet Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:16:29 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-5539 [...] EPA is facing legal heat for its silly ruling that CO2 is a dangerous pollutant: Peabody believes that EPA ignored its [...] [...] EPA is facing legal heat for its silly ruling that CO2 is a dangerous pollutant: Peabody believes that EPA ignored its [...]

]]> By: Rich http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-5433 Rich Mon, 01 Mar 2010 04:12:00 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-5433 Don't know if this proves anything, but - A common picture on the front page of the newspaper back in the "Cold War" (no pun intended) was that of a US submarine at the North Pole. Well, some of those pictures were NOT taken at the North Pole because there was NO ice there! If you are going to brag about being at the North Pole, you have to have ice, thus the picture was taken where ther was ice. We were told that the ice cap floated around and sometimes the sub was out of luck and there was no ice. Don’t know if this proves anything, but – A common picture on the front page of the newspaper back in the “Cold War” (no pun intended) was that of a US submarine at the North Pole. Well, some of those pictures were NOT taken at the North Pole because there was NO ice there! If you are going to brag about being at the North Pole, you have to have ice, thus the picture was taken where ther was ice. We were told that the ice cap floated around and sometimes the sub was out of luck and there was no ice.

]]> By: Jack http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-5045 Jack Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:40:44 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-5045 Aaron, All the agencies you listed gave their data to the IPCC -- the IPCC data stemmed from them. Aaron,
All the agencies you listed gave their data to the IPCC — the IPCC data stemmed from them.

]]> By: Aaron Huertas http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-5013 Aaron Huertas Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:11:30 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-5013 You can cherry-pick all you want, but these links from CRU to IPCC to EPA are tenuous at best. Please see below from my organization, thought I suspect the audience at Master Resource probably does not care. From http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/lawsuits-against-epa-climate-science-0355.html Some of the challenges are based on the erroneous assumption that the EPA based its finding solely on IPCC reports. A review of the agency's "Technical Support Document for the Findings" (pdf) shows that it drew on scientific data from a number of institutions, including: the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the non-profit research organization, CNA Corporation, IPCC, National Aeronautical and Space Administration, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Research Council, National Snow and Ice Data Center, NOAA National Climatic Data Center, U.S. Climate Change Science Program, U.S. Department of Agriculture, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, U.S. Geological Survey, and U.S. Navy. You can cherry-pick all you want, but these links from CRU to IPCC to EPA are tenuous at best. Please see below from my organization, thought I suspect the audience at Master Resource probably does not care.

From http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/lawsuits-against-epa-climate-science-0355.html

Some of the challenges are based on the erroneous assumption that the EPA based its finding solely on IPCC reports. A review of the agency’s “Technical Support Document for the Findings” (pdf) shows that it drew on scientific data from a number of institutions, including: the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the non-profit research organization, CNA Corporation, IPCC, National Aeronautical and Space Administration, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, National Research Council, National Snow and Ice Data Center, NOAA National Climatic Data Center, U.S. Climate Change Science Program, U.S. Department of Agriculture, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, U.S. Geological Survey, and U.S. Navy.

]]> By: Artesian http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-4821 Artesian Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:05:56 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-4821 The EPA was populated with activists when it was founded on the first Earth Day. The EPA was populated with activists when it was founded on the first Earth Day.

]]> By: Bob http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-4805 Bob Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:48:29 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-4805 The EPA has a long proud history of ignoring real science and basing its decisions on political science. Anyone who doubts the EPA will not ignore real science has never done much in complying with EPA regulations. The EPA has a long proud history of ignoring real science and basing its decisions on political science. Anyone who doubts the EPA will not ignore real science has never done much in complying with EPA regulations.

]]> By: Chris http://www.masterresource.org/2010/02/epa-petitioned-to-reconsider-its-endangerment-finding/comment-page-1/#comment-4671 Chris Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:30:14 +0000 http://www.masterresource.org/?p=7450#comment-4671 I read Lisa Jackson will be appearing this week before Congress regarding appropriation. Let the fireworks begin. I read Lisa Jackson will be appearing this week before Congress regarding appropriation. Let the fireworks begin.

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