Comments on: Remove the Golden Egg (CO2) from EPA’s GHG Basket http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/ A free-market energy blog Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:41:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: More Deceit from Climate Progress, Center for American Progress (Is Joe Romm shooting himself in the foot?) — MasterResource http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-1831 More Deceit from Climate Progress, Center for American Progress (Is Joe Romm shooting himself in the foot?) — MasterResource Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:42:36 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=3266#comment-1831 [...] etc.) that should be recognized as such. There are ecological and economic positives from the green greenhouse gas that should be factored into the equation–a happy fact given that politics cannot solve the [...] [...] etc.) that should be recognized as such. There are ecological and economic positives from the green greenhouse gas that should be factored into the equation–a happy fact given that politics cannot solve the [...]

]]> By: Roger Pielke Jr. Challenges Joe Romm: Looking for Intellectual Improvement — MasterResource http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-1828 Roger Pielke Jr. Challenges Joe Romm: Looking for Intellectual Improvement — MasterResource Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:03:59 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=3266#comment-1828 [...] etc.) that should be recognized as such. There are ecological and economic positives from the green greenhouse gas that should be factored into the equation–a happy fact given that politics cannot solve the [...] [...] etc.) that should be recognized as such. There are ecological and economic positives from the green greenhouse gas that should be factored into the equation–a happy fact given that politics cannot solve the [...]

]]> By: Fred H. Haynie http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-1827 Fred H. Haynie Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:19:55 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=3266#comment-1827 Joe, Basically, I have a master's degree in chemical engineering from Auburn, masters in metallurgical engineering from Ohio State, addition graduate work at Georgia Tech and the University of Pennsylvinia, and a certificate from the Environmental Management Institute at USC. At EPA I served in several organizations as we seemed to be constantly being reorganized (Economics Effects Research Division, Ecology Division, Environmental Sciences Research Laboratory). I worked with economist, engineers, plant pathologists, statisticians, meteoroligist, and atmospheric chemists. I was an active member of AIChE, ASTM, and NACE. Google "Fred H. Haynie" to view examples of some of my publications. As an aside, I spent seven years on active duty as a naval aviator and remained in the reserves and retired as a Captain. One reserve job was in a Systems Analysis Division studying command and control. Joe,
Basically, I have a master’s degree in chemical engineering from Auburn, masters in metallurgical engineering from Ohio State, addition graduate work at Georgia Tech and the University of Pennsylvinia, and a certificate from the Environmental Management Institute at USC. At EPA I served in several organizations as we seemed to be constantly being reorganized (Economics Effects Research Division, Ecology Division, Environmental Sciences Research Laboratory). I worked with economist, engineers, plant pathologists, statisticians, meteoroligist, and atmospheric chemists. I was an active member of AIChE, ASTM, and NACE. Google “Fred H. Haynie” to view examples of some of my publications. As an aside, I spent seven years on active duty as a naval aviator and remained in the reserves and retired as a Captain. One reserve job was in a Systems Analysis Division studying command and control.

]]> By: Joe LaVigna http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-1826 Joe LaVigna Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:52:17 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=3266#comment-1826 Fred, Do you have or use a biography summary that you care to share so that I can send it along with copies of your very fine pdf report? Joe Fred,
Do you have or use a biography summary that you care to share so that I can send it along with copies of your very fine pdf report?
Joe

]]> By: Fred H. Haynie http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-1825 Fred H. Haynie Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:57:01 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=3266#comment-1825 Chass, Try this http:\\www.kidswincom.net\climate.pdf Fred Chass,
Try this http:\\www.kidswincom.net\climate.pdf

Fred

]]> By: Chass http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-1822 Chass Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:45:41 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=3266#comment-1822 Fred - Can you check your link? I couldnt't get a copy of your climatechange.pdf to download. Thanks Fred -

Can you check your link? I couldnt’t get a copy of your climatechange.pdf to download.

Thanks

]]> By: Fred H. Haynie http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-1824 Fred H. Haynie Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:00:55 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=3266#comment-1824 To all concerned, One reason I retired early from research at EPA years ago was good science was beginning to be sidetracked for political purposes. In this case EPA has been completely derailed. I have spent the last four years of my retirement studying all the data I could find to get to the truth about climate change. I just finished a presentation that shows ample evidence that anthropogenic emissions of carbon dioxide do not cause global warming. Carbon dioxide has been falsely convicted on circumstantial evidence by a politically selected jury. A just retrial could overturn this conviction before we punish ourselves by trying to control emissions that will have no effect on climate change. You can view the presentation and be your on judge and jury at http://www.kidswincom.net/climatechangepdf .pdf Sincerely, Fred H. Haynie Retired Environmental Scientist To all concerned,

One reason I retired early from research at EPA years ago was good
science was beginning to be sidetracked for political purposes. In this
case EPA has been completely derailed. I have spent the last four years
of my retirement studying all the data I could find to get to the truth about climate change. I just finished a presentation that shows ample evidence that anthropogenic emissions of carbon dioxide do not cause global warming. Carbon dioxide has been falsely convicted on circumstantial evidence by a politically selected jury. A just retrial could overturn this conviction before we punish ourselves by trying to control emissions that will have no effect on climate change. You can view the presentation and be your on judge and jury at http://www.kidswincom.net/climatechangepdf

.pdf Sincerely,

Fred H. Haynie
Retired Environmental Scientist

]]> By: Allen http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-1821 Allen Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:24:03 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=3266#comment-1821 Interesting comment on the master resource post....does EPA have any plans to regulate soot? Yes they do and they have. In fact, most of the benefits derived from establishing the national ambient air quality standards for PM2.5, O3, Pb, NO2, SO2, etc. are derived from the mortality and morbidity risk reduction benefits associated with reducing particulate concentrations directly, or via control of precursor emissions of ozone, lead, nitrogen dioxide and sulfur dioxide. The master resource post does address the void in EPA's proposed finding with respect to the near term effects consequences relative to the more distant and uncertain effects. However, the 43% is still a large number. But, the percentage pertinent for the endangerment finding is much lower. Why? The USA is just a part of the world's current and future CO2 loadings.,,not as big as China last year. Moreover, the effectiveness of any USA GHG reduction strategy is dependent on what the rest of the world does in the interim. Do we find as we have with the primary smelting, textile, steel industry, and other formerly dominant domestic industries that stringent regulations and costly emission reduction requirements in the USA offer opportunities across our borders and offshore? Yes!! What EPA fails to address in the proposed endangerment finding is the marginal effect of domestic GHG emissions changes on radiative forcing. To do that EPA must address what other countries are doing or may do in the interim as well as the deficiencies of macro meterological and emissions inventory projection models in predicting impacts on narrow geographic areas where the alledged significant endangerment may occur. Interesting comment on the master resource post….does EPA have any plans to regulate soot? Yes they do and they have. In fact, most of the benefits derived from establishing the national ambient air quality standards for PM2.5, O3, Pb, NO2, SO2, etc. are derived from the mortality and morbidity risk reduction benefits associated with reducing particulate concentrations directly, or via control of precursor emissions of ozone, lead, nitrogen dioxide and sulfur dioxide.

The master resource post does address the void in EPA’s proposed finding with respect to the near term effects consequences relative to the more distant and uncertain effects. However, the 43% is still a large number. But, the percentage pertinent for the endangerment finding is much lower. Why? The USA is just a part of the world’s current and future CO2 loadings.,,not as big as China last year. Moreover, the effectiveness of any USA GHG reduction strategy is dependent on what the rest of the world does in the interim. Do we find as we have with the primary smelting, textile, steel industry, and other formerly dominant domestic industries that stringent regulations and costly emission reduction requirements in the USA offer opportunities across our borders and offshore? Yes!! What EPA fails to address in the proposed endangerment finding is the marginal effect of domestic GHG emissions changes on radiative forcing. To do that EPA must address what other countries are doing or may do in the interim as well as the deficiencies of macro meterological and emissions inventory projection models in predicting impacts on narrow geographic areas where the alledged significant endangerment may occur.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.masterresource.org/2009/06/remove-the-golden-egg-co2-from-epa%e2%80%99s-ghg-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-1823 Andrew Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:14:50 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=3266#comment-1823 One wonders why the EPA doesn't have plans to regulate soot or land use or anything like that. Oh, right, climate/health impacts don't matter. Science doesn't matter. It is all about control. One wonders why the EPA doesn’t have plans to regulate soot or land use or anything like that. Oh, right, climate/health impacts don’t matter. Science doesn’t matter. It is all about control.

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