Comments on: The New MIT Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/ A free-market energy blog Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:41:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Policy Peril Segment 5: Is the Science Debate “Over”? | OpenMarket.org http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1674 Policy Peril Segment 5: Is the Science Debate “Over”? | OpenMarket.org Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:38:36 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1674 [...] C. Knappenberger (”Chip” to his friends) quite reasonably wonders, “[H]ow long a period of no warming can be tolerated before the forecasts of the total [...] [...] C. Knappenberger (”Chip” to his friends) quite reasonably wonders, “[H]ow long a period of no warming can be tolerated before the forecasts of the total [...]

]]> By: Worth Re-reading Weekend (MasterResource works for lazy summer days too) — MasterResource http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1673 Worth Re-reading Weekend (MasterResource works for lazy summer days too) — MasterResource Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:00:37 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1673 [...] The New MIT Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? 1,496 Views [...] [...] The New MIT Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? 1,496 Views [...]

]]> By: Krugman Crashes on Climate Change — MasterResource http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1672 Krugman Crashes on Climate Change — MasterResource Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:39:33 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1672 [...] Not surprisingly, Krugman left out the fact that while global emissions of greenhouse gases are rising faster than expected, global temperatures are rising much slower than expected. This clearly points to a problem somewhere—quite possibly within the very type of climate models that the M.I.T. researchers used to base their conclusions, as I have discussed). [...] [...] Not surprisingly, Krugman left out the fact that while global emissions of greenhouse gases are rising faster than expected, global temperatures are rising much slower than expected. This clearly points to a problem somewhere—quite possibly within the very type of climate models that the M.I.T. researchers used to base their conclusions, as I have discussed). [...]

]]> By: The New MIT Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? - Green Living - City-Data Forum http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1671 The New MIT Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? - Green Living - City-Data Forum Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:12:11 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1671 [...] Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? if anyone is interested...Blog on MIT climate study The New MIT Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? — MasterResource [+] Rate this post [...] [...] Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? if anyone is interested…Blog on MIT climate study The New MIT Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? — MasterResource [+] Rate this post [...]

]]> By: groweg http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1653 groweg Fri, 29 May 2009 22:21:39 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1653 The whole practice of creating models based upon inputs determined by the modeler's (biased?) judgments and not tested extensively on new or "out-of -sample" data is worthless. This is a lot like the financial modelers who created models that got the risks of holding mortgage-backed securities all wrong. Its hard to believe that highly educated MIT scientists are making this mistake of grossly over-valuing the output of completely untested computer models of a such a highly complex, "noisy" system. They ought to know better. That they do not is amazing and disappointing. The whole practice of creating models based upon inputs determined by the modeler’s (biased?) judgments and not tested extensively on new or “out-of -sample” data is worthless. This is a lot like the financial modelers who created models that got the risks of holding mortgage-backed securities all wrong. Its hard to believe that highly educated MIT scientists are making this mistake of grossly over-valuing the output of completely untested computer models of a such a highly complex, “noisy” system. They ought to know better. That they do not is amazing and disappointing.

]]> By: A Conservative Teacher http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1661 A Conservative Teacher Fri, 29 May 2009 13:48:01 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1661 Don't be surprised- if there is no global warming crisis, then these scientists would not get government grants and would have to get real jobs. You don't know what it is like in the real work- people demand results. These scientists are just doubling down on their bet on the incompetence and ignorance of the American public and the politicians they elect. That's a bet they are likely to win. Don’t be surprised- if there is no global warming crisis, then these scientists would not get government grants and would have to get real jobs. You don’t know what it is like in the real work- people demand results. These scientists are just doubling down on their bet on the incompetence and ignorance of the American public and the politicians they elect. That’s a bet they are likely to win.

]]> By: Scientists queueing up to mock AGW theory http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1669 Scientists queueing up to mock AGW theory Fri, 29 May 2009 07:58:27 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1669 [...] goes by, a little more reality comes into this debate, instead of the usual scamming by alarmists. The New MIT Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? — MasterResource Scoop: Scientists proclaim climate change is natural Scientist: 'There is no possible global [...] [...] goes by, a little more reality comes into this debate, instead of the usual scamming by alarmists. The New MIT Climate Study: A Real World Inversion? — MasterResource Scoop: Scientists proclaim climate change is natural Scientist: ‘There is no possible global [...]

]]> By: Wall Street Journal » Blog Archive » Green Ink: OPEC Punts, Al Gore Cribs, Obama Promises http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1664 Wall Street Journal » Blog Archive » Green Ink: OPEC Punts, Al Gore Cribs, Obama Promises Fri, 29 May 2009 06:30:39 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1664 [...] Climate-change modelers are getting increasingly worried about rising temperatures; but why should their even scarier projections ring true when current predictions have been off-base? at Master Resource. [...] [...] Climate-change modelers are getting increasingly worried about rising temperatures; but why should their even scarier projections ring true when current predictions have been off-base? at Master Resource. [...]

]]> By: Mark_0454 http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1668 Mark_0454 Thu, 28 May 2009 22:49:30 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1668 There is a good debate on youtube. Both sides presented. The whole thing is worth the time if you can spare it. At about 5:30 to 7:00 there is a discussion of the fit of models to current obserbed temps. The climate models would be the older models with slower warming. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACo2OCSJnBI There is a good debate on youtube. Both sides presented. The whole thing is worth the time if you can spare it.

At about 5:30 to 7:00 there is a discussion of the fit of models to current obserbed temps. The climate models would be the older models with slower warming.

]]> By: Howard http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/the-new-mit-climate-study-a-real-world-inversion-for-the-political-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-1670 Howard Thu, 28 May 2009 22:20:00 +0000 http://masterresource.org/?p=2977#comment-1670 Thanks, Chip, for the new graph. Now the MIT bozos look even stupider. Thanks, Chip, for the new graph. Now the MIT bozos look even stupider.

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