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	<title>Comments on: Joseph Romm and Enron: For the Record</title>
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		<title>By: More Deceit from Climate Progress, Center for American Progress (Is Joe Romm shooting himself in the foot?) &#8212; MasterResource</title>
		<link>http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/joe-romm-and-enron-setting-the-record-straight-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1298</link>
		<dc:creator>More Deceit from Climate Progress, Center for American Progress (Is Joe Romm shooting himself in the foot?) &#8212; MasterResource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joseph Romm and Enron: for the Record (May 5, 2009) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Worth Re-reading Weekend (MasterResource works for lazy summer days too) &#8212; MasterResource</title>
		<link>http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/joe-romm-and-enron-setting-the-record-straight-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1297</link>
		<dc:creator>Worth Re-reading Weekend (MasterResource works for lazy summer days too) &#8212; MasterResource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joseph Romm and Enron: For the Record 3,079 Views [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 150,000 and Counting &#8211;Thank You Viewers! &#8212; MasterResource</title>
		<link>http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/joe-romm-and-enron-setting-the-record-straight-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1296</link>
		<dc:creator>150,000 and Counting &#8211;Thank You Viewers! &#8212; MasterResource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] climate alarmism/activism are just the opposite of the ones he draws. Stay tuned on this debate. Joseph Romm and Enron: For the Record 3,079 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Enron and Waxman-Markey: Response to Joe Romm &#8212; MasterResource</title>
		<link>http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/joe-romm-and-enron-setting-the-record-straight-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Enron and Waxman-Markey: Response to Joe Romm &#8212; MasterResource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] division of Enron, Enron Energy Services. I offer evidence for this conclusion in two posts: Joe Romm and Enron: For the Record (May 5, 2009) and Joe Romm and Enron: More For the Record (May 8, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] division of Enron, Enron Energy Services. I offer evidence for this conclusion in two posts: Joe Romm and Enron: For the Record (May 5, 2009) and Joe Romm and Enron: More For the Record (May 8, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Market Conservation vs. Government Conservationism: Understanding the Limits to Energy Efficiency and &#8216;New-Economy&#8217; ESCOs &#8212; MasterResource</title>
		<link>http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/joe-romm-and-enron-setting-the-record-straight-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1294</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Conservation vs. Government Conservationism: Understanding the Limits to Energy Efficiency and &#8216;New-Economy&#8217; ESCOs &#8212; MasterResource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] energy outsourcing division of the late Enron, was the next great thing, thought Amory Lovins and Joseph Romm, the gurus of less is more. Energy savings were easy pickings, and Enron would help lead large [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] energy outsourcing division of the late Enron, was the next great thing, thought Amory Lovins and Joseph Romm, the gurus of less is more. Energy savings were easy pickings, and Enron would help lead large [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Enron vs. Exxon Mobil: Polar Approaches to Energy and Public Policy &#8212; MasterResource</title>
		<link>http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/joe-romm-and-enron-setting-the-record-straight-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>Enron vs. Exxon Mobil: Polar Approaches to Energy and Public Policy &#8212; MasterResource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Enron Energy Services, the energy outsourcing division of Enron that so excited environmentalists (including Joe Romm, now blogging at Climate Progress), was one of the company&#8217;s biggest frauds. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rbradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken:

Thank you very much for your Ken Lay observations. That adds to the historical record. I hope others join in with there recollections. And sorry I had to edit one word--some of our readers might be under aged!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken:</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your Ken Lay observations. That adds to the historical record. I hope others join in with there recollections. And sorry I had to edit one word&#8211;some of our readers might be under aged!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fulmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fulmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In his book, &quot;The Quest for Cosmic Justice,&quot; Thomas Sowell writes:
&quot;... Einstein insisted from the outset that his theory of relativity must be checked against observable facts before it could be accepted - and so it was, by scientists around the world, including those scientists who were initially skeptical, but who became convinced by the evidence of their own experiments.&quot;

Note that Einstein did not simply declare that the &quot;science was settled.&quot;  Nor, it appears, did he ever call anyone who doubted his theory a “denier” or threaten any such person with a Nuremburg-like trial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his book, &#8220;The Quest for Cosmic Justice,&#8221; Thomas Sowell writes:<br />
&#8220;&#8230; Einstein insisted from the outset that his theory of relativity must be checked against observable facts before it could be accepted &#8211; and so it was, by scientists around the world, including those scientists who were initially skeptical, but who became convinced by the evidence of their own experiments.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note that Einstein did not simply declare that the &#8220;science was settled.&#8221;  Nor, it appears, did he ever call anyone who doubted his theory a “denier” or threaten any such person with a Nuremburg-like trial.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Maize</title>
		<link>http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/joe-romm-and-enron-setting-the-record-straight-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1281</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Maize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 22:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As tendentious and mendacious as Joe Romm is today, I wouldn&#039;t necessarily fault him for his rose-colored-glasses view of Enron in 1999.  Many of us were mind-f-----, with the exception of Rob Bradley and a few others.

On the other hand, as a reporter I&#039;d known Ken Lay since the mid-1980s (including the ill-fated nomenclature explosion of Enteron). My experience was with a guy who, I concluded, was much more interested in government policy and politics than in running a business.  In those days, Richard Kinder kept the business balls juggled while Lay played games in Washington.

When Kinder got passed over in favor of Jeff Skilling (the empressario of virtual businesses), the balls started falling out of the air.  Kinder went on to great success, focusing on fundamentals of gas transmission.  Enron, of course, collapsed like the House of  Usher.

An anecdote that might be of interest.  In 1992, when I was serving as a consultant to non-utility generators, one of them (the late Cogen Technologies) asked me to represent the company&#039;s interests at an RNC-concocted event to draft an energy platform for the upcoming Republican convention. Tom Korologos ran the event. I laughed when I accepted the job, as I am a Democrat. But my client didn&#039;t care. They just wanted someone at the table who understood energy politics and its part of the business.

The whole thing, of course, was a sham designed to raise energy company money for the GOP. It was a pay-to-play deal, with each company at the table kicking in $2,000 for a seat. I took another $2,000 for about two-days work.

After the first meeting, I wrote a draft platform plank on energy. It was goof-and-spoof:  classic Republican red meat. No subsidies, reduce regulation, free-up markets, end utility monopolies, etc. Get rid of DOE. Drill, drill, drill. I knew the drill very well.

When we met again (I think it was at the Hay-Adams, maybe the Willard), many of the folks there shook my hand and told me how much they admired my draft platform plank. A guy from Bechtel positively groaned in pleasure.

Then the group adopted draft language entirely in the opposite direction -- supporting continued and greater subsidies for such things as Section 29 (coal-bed methane) gas,  alleged synfuels. more DOE R&amp;D and CRADAs, etc. It could have been written by J. Bennett Johnston.

Sitting at the table for the first time, smiling like the Cheshire cat, was Ken Lay. It was Enron&#039;s &quot;plank&quot; that the fund-raising RNC group adopted.

Of course, as I knew at the time, the whole exercise was meaningless, as the GOP adopted a very different plank  -- I don&#039;t even remember what it was, except that it was entirely anodyne  -- and Bill Clinton went on to wax GHWB in the general election, where energy was an entirely insignificant issue.

That&#039;s one of my recollections of Key Lay&#039;s approach to management. I have more (has anyone heard of Intellibridge?) , but they begin to get boring.

Ken Maize</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As tendentious and mendacious as Joe Romm is today, I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily fault him for his rose-colored-glasses view of Enron in 1999.  Many of us were mind-f&#8212;&#8211;, with the exception of Rob Bradley and a few others.</p>
<p>On the other hand, as a reporter I&#8217;d known Ken Lay since the mid-1980s (including the ill-fated nomenclature explosion of Enteron). My experience was with a guy who, I concluded, was much more interested in government policy and politics than in running a business.  In those days, Richard Kinder kept the business balls juggled while Lay played games in Washington.</p>
<p>When Kinder got passed over in favor of Jeff Skilling (the empressario of virtual businesses), the balls started falling out of the air.  Kinder went on to great success, focusing on fundamentals of gas transmission.  Enron, of course, collapsed like the House of  Usher.</p>
<p>An anecdote that might be of interest.  In 1992, when I was serving as a consultant to non-utility generators, one of them (the late Cogen Technologies) asked me to represent the company&#8217;s interests at an RNC-concocted event to draft an energy platform for the upcoming Republican convention. Tom Korologos ran the event. I laughed when I accepted the job, as I am a Democrat. But my client didn&#8217;t care. They just wanted someone at the table who understood energy politics and its part of the business.</p>
<p>The whole thing, of course, was a sham designed to raise energy company money for the GOP. It was a pay-to-play deal, with each company at the table kicking in $2,000 for a seat. I took another $2,000 for about two-days work.</p>
<p>After the first meeting, I wrote a draft platform plank on energy. It was goof-and-spoof:  classic Republican red meat. No subsidies, reduce regulation, free-up markets, end utility monopolies, etc. Get rid of DOE. Drill, drill, drill. I knew the drill very well.</p>
<p>When we met again (I think it was at the Hay-Adams, maybe the Willard), many of the folks there shook my hand and told me how much they admired my draft platform plank. A guy from Bechtel positively groaned in pleasure.</p>
<p>Then the group adopted draft language entirely in the opposite direction &#8212; supporting continued and greater subsidies for such things as Section 29 (coal-bed methane) gas,  alleged synfuels. more DOE R&amp;D and CRADAs, etc. It could have been written by J. Bennett Johnston.</p>
<p>Sitting at the table for the first time, smiling like the Cheshire cat, was Ken Lay. It was Enron&#8217;s &#8220;plank&#8221; that the fund-raising RNC group adopted.</p>
<p>Of course, as I knew at the time, the whole exercise was meaningless, as the GOP adopted a very different plank  &#8212; I don&#8217;t even remember what it was, except that it was entirely anodyne  &#8212; and Bill Clinton went on to wax GHWB in the general election, where energy was an entirely insignificant issue.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of my recollections of Key Lay&#8217;s approach to management. I have more (has anyone heard of Intellibridge?) , but they begin to get boring.</p>
<p>Ken Maize</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bolts Sr.</title>
		<link>http://www.masterresource.org/2009/05/joe-romm-and-enron-setting-the-record-straight-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1283</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bolts Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came over from NRO&#039;s Planet Gore and I always like how our guys on the conservative side argue with facts and rational analysis without resorting to ad hominem attacks. Unfortunately, the same can almost never be said about the Left. I still can&#039;t even wrap my mind around how they believe that mankind can affect the weather, but the Left, which I though was supposed to be enlightened and convinced by reason, has fallen for this belief hook, line and sinker. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came over from NRO&#8217;s Planet Gore and I always like how our guys on the conservative side argue with facts and rational analysis without resorting to ad hominem attacks. Unfortunately, the same can almost never be said about the Left. I still can&#8217;t even wrap my mind around how they believe that mankind can affect the weather, but the Left, which I though was supposed to be enlightened and convinced by reason, has fallen for this belief hook, line and sinker. Keep up the good work.</p>
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