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	<title>Comments on: Can Renewable Technologies Provide U.S. Electricity Needs? (Only hypothetically, using unrealistic assumptions)</title>
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		<title>By: Dear Tom Friedman: Are You a Fascist Wannabee? &#8212; MasterResource</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dear Tom Friedman: Are You a Fascist Wannabee? &#8212; MasterResource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in commercial quantities. Maybe that will force California to come to its senses about just how much land and other resources renewable energy requires, and why concentrated forms of energy (gas, oil, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Friedman (again) &#8212; MasterResource</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Friedman (again) &#8212; MasterResource</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in commercial quantities. Maybe that will force California to come to its senses about just how much land and other resources renewable energy requires, and why concentrated forms of energy (gas, oil, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cooler Heads Digest 9 April 2009&#160;&#124;&#160;GlobalWarming.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cooler Heads Digest 9 April 2009&#160;&#124;&#160;GlobalWarming.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Can Renewables Meet America&#8217;s Energy Needs? Mary Hutzler, MasterResource.org, 7 April 2009 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carbonicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carbonicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the factual comparison.

To all readers: I&#039;ve been posting on Romm&#039;s ClimateProgress.org asking tough questions such as these, pointing out facts rebutting his figures, and challenging his fearmongering and misinformation.    He quickly deletes the posts rather than responds to them.

Andrew is right.  He will refuse to answer questions that weaken his fearmongering even when faced with facts, and instead reverts to ad hominem attacks.  Google &quot;Joe Romm debate with Marc Morano&quot; and read the coverage of that event.  Joe Romm is a scientist and was embarassed by a non-scientists throwing fact after fact at him.  Romm stated, and I quote, we will see &quot;temperature increases of 10 - 15 degrees F and sea level rise of 5-10 feet by the end of the century&quot;.

For those of you not interested in looking up the most recent historical rates of each, they are 1 degree F and 1 inch over the last century, the last 60 years of which were during massive emissions of the death gas CO2.

Recognize what&#039;s going on here and stand up America!  Stand up and fight loss of liberties under the auspices of saving the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the factual comparison.</p>
<p>To all readers: I&#8217;ve been posting on Romm&#8217;s ClimateProgress.org asking tough questions such as these, pointing out facts rebutting his figures, and challenging his fearmongering and misinformation.    He quickly deletes the posts rather than responds to them.</p>
<p>Andrew is right.  He will refuse to answer questions that weaken his fearmongering even when faced with facts, and instead reverts to ad hominem attacks.  Google &#8220;Joe Romm debate with Marc Morano&#8221; and read the coverage of that event.  Joe Romm is a scientist and was embarassed by a non-scientists throwing fact after fact at him.  Romm stated, and I quote, we will see &#8220;temperature increases of 10 &#8211; 15 degrees F and sea level rise of 5-10 feet by the end of the century&#8221;.</p>
<p>For those of you not interested in looking up the most recent historical rates of each, they are 1 degree F and 1 inch over the last century, the last 60 years of which were during massive emissions of the death gas CO2.</p>
<p>Recognize what&#8217;s going on here and stand up America!  Stand up and fight loss of liberties under the auspices of saving the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beware, if Romm chooses to not ignore you, he might write a rude, nonconstructive blog post loaded with ad hominem and other powerful, compelling counter arguments. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beware, if Romm chooses to not ignore you, he might write a rude, nonconstructive blog post loaded with ad hominem and other powerful, compelling counter arguments. <img src='http://www.masterresource.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Donald Hertzmark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Hertzmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 300 GW installed wind capacity cited by Romm as necessary to achieve 20% market penetration represents nameplate capacity only.  300 GW of wind could be expected to deliver not more than 50-60 GW of firm power (capacity with &gt;90% probability of availability) during a Summer peak.  A recent study in Ontario (see http://www.theimo.com/imoweb/pubs/consult/windpower/wpsc-20080220-Item4.pdf)  showed that while Winter capacity factors for wind were good (~35-45%), the converse held for Summer (~15-16%).  In a Summer peak system, such as that characterizing most of the continental US, wind will need to be backed up about 85% by conventional generation resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 300 GW installed wind capacity cited by Romm as necessary to achieve 20% market penetration represents nameplate capacity only.  300 GW of wind could be expected to deliver not more than 50-60 GW of firm power (capacity with &gt;90% probability of availability) during a Summer peak.  A recent study in Ontario (see <a href="http://www.theimo.com/imoweb/pubs/consult/windpower/wpsc-20080220-Item4.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.theimo.com/imoweb/pubs/consult/windpower/wpsc-20080220-Item4.pdf</a>)  showed that while Winter capacity factors for wind were good (~35-45%), the converse held for Summer (~15-16%).  In a Summer peak system, such as that characterizing most of the continental US, wind will need to be backed up about 85% by conventional generation resources.</p>
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