Comments on: Audubon's Bird-brained Conclusion: More Global Warming Misdirection

By: nofreewind

nofreewind — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:51:28 +0000

Summary of their deception
http://www.nofreewind.com/2009/07/how-national-audubon-society-deceives_13.html

By: nofreewind

nofreewind — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:51:03 +0000

Not only did Audubon deceive us with the bird data, they deceived us in regards to the temperature data/trends that they used.
http://www.nofreewind.com/2009/07/how-national-audubon-society-deceives.html
my analysis the bird population trends.
http://www.nofreewind.com/2009/07/how-national-audubon-society-deceives_14.html
Summary of their deception

By: JDavid

JDavid — Fri, 08 May 2009 00:11:03 +0000

Ken wrote on 02.14.09 at 10:01 pm “I can tell you as birds winter further north the southern populations do decline. We used to have 35,000 Canada Geese wintering in north Alabama, now those birds spend the winter further north and we have less than a thousand migratory Canada Geese. The Audubon Society should have better emphasized the big question which is how long will it be before species that need tundra and boreal forests to nest will lose their breeding habitats as those habitats disappear? We had better all hope as climate changes we do not lose rainfall over currently moist areas or currently semi-dry areas such as the bread basket of the Great Plains. While you folks seem to want to debate the effects of global warming, why take a chance. Buy some compact florecent bulbs and take other measures to conserve energy.”

HORSE HOCKY! News flash for you Ken- I grew up skiing and fishing on the Alabama river in south central Alabama a couple of hundred miles south of Huntsville or Florence or wherever you live in North Alabama- prior to about 10 years ago guess what species we NEVER saw down here? GEESE! Guess what has happened in the last 10 years- I have personally observed 100’s of geese over wintering here, there are even dozens of nesting pairs that stay well into the spring and raise young. How are you going to spin what I have seen with my own eyeballs? Suggest that the rising temps caused me to hallucinate?

Accept reality- you environmental extremists have lost the debate- focusing your energies and OUR money on real environmental issues is the only sane course of action.

By: sunsettommy

sunsettommy — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:54:10 +0000

Ken,what about cycles?

What happened during the MWP and the LIA climatic periods.Did they migrate north or south during those times?

Changing light bulbs typesare a nonsense idea to conserve energy.They are very minor player in energy consumption.

How about improved home and office building designs or build Nuclear plants instead?

WE can greatly improve what we have as long as it makes economical sense.

By: ken

ken — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 03:01:45 +0000

I can tell you as birds winter further north the southern populations do decline. We used to have 35,000 Canada Geese wintering in north Alabama, now those birds spend the winter further north and we have less than a thousand migratory Canada Geese. The Audubon Society should have better emphasized the big question which is how long will it be before species that need tundra and boreal forests to nest will lose their breeding habitats as those habitats disappear? We had better all hope as climate changes we do not lose rainfall over currently moist areas or currently semi-dry areas such as the bread basket of the Great Plains. While you folks seem to want to debate the effects of global warming, why take a chance. Buy some compact florecent bulbs and take other measures to conserve energy.

By: jae

jae — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:52:11 +0000

Mike: ” Our local daily newspaper the Seattle Post Intelligencer ignored the reality ”

Didn’t I just read that that paper is almost bankrupt? If so, I wonder why?

By: Wayne

Wayne — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:14:13 +0000

I’ve linked to your post from Discerning Science – Global Warming – Debate

By: Mike Cook

Mike Cook — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:59:51 +0000

Whoops, I knew it was barred owls and misremembered while I typed. But this being Darwin’s birthday and all I was reading that “survival of the fittest” was not actually a concept from Darwin himself and it certainly isn’t popular among today’s evolutionists. So, if barred owls are aggressively shouldering aside “Northern” Spotted Owls it just must be some type of freak nature thing, because according to Spotted Owl theory a larger owl should not be able to make a living in the Old Growth forests, for the reason that Old Growth forest floors really do not support as many small mammals as younger forests.

Which leads me to the supposition that maybe the barred owls are making their living in the austere Old Growth environment by eating small song birds and other exotic fowl being forced northward by CLIMATE CHANGE.

As I type this part the temp outside here near Seattle is five degrees colder than normal, which is pretty much the way it has been all winter. Our local daily newspaper the Seattle Post Intelligencer ignored the reality outside its doors to run the big Audubon story on how the warming of the Pacific NW seems to be causing all this feathered population shift. The temp numbers they were using were just for the month of January every year and they are claiming that it is the “extremes” of temperature range that determine what a species likes, not the average temperature.

By: cknappenberger

cknappenberger — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:49:01 +0000

The URL of the Appendix (pdf) is:

http://www.audubon.org/news/pressroom/bacc/pdfs/Appendix.pdf

The overall population trend for each species is the 5th to last column of the large table (whose width spans several pages).

-Chip

By: DB

DB — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:33:21 +0000

The appendix appears to have been changed; at least the one I downloaded no longer had the population data.